Lets get one thing straight Darren Bent did not cost us £16 mil the figure is closer to £12 mil.If he was successful at Spurs the final figure with appearance and other add ons would have come to the well over inflated £16 mil that is bandied about.Even at £12 mil tho he is overpriced but do you want to keep paying the duffers wages.. no is the right answer.. get rid now for whatever we can get for him.

Posted by: john | June 23, 2008 1:14 PM

Rubbish, complete rubbish!

Spurs are a side that have to 'gamble' on players to a certain degree. We have no Champions League football to offer established players and we have a wage structure which also excludes a vast number of players. Spurs cannot offer the same as the Manures, Milan or Madrid of this world.

So we have to buy young and gamble on players progression or take a chance on the more challenging players to manage. A few examples, Lennon bought for 1mill, linked with Chelsea as a swop for SWP (21mill) now linked with the Toon for 6mill. A positive gamble. Keane bounces from club to club never really settled until he arrives at N17. Hudds bought for 6p and a packet of polo's from Derby and was being linked with 10mill plus moves!

For every one we get right we will get more wrong, Rebrov, Chimbonda, Bent, etc. But I can tell you whilst he is not Dimi, if the stroppy Bulgarian left and Bent had a run in the team he would become worth the 16.5mill mark my words.

So dont go around asking for peoples heads, when the job available to the guys that select players will always include losses and gains by the shear nature of the job. Its a bit like being a doctor in A&E, you know you will lose a few, its the ones you save that make the difference.

Posted by: James | June 23, 2008 1:16 PM

Blah blah blah I'm more intelligent than you.

Blah, blah blah I read real blog sites.

Blah blah blah I'm a member of the grammar police.

If it's the worst website around why read it you f*cking muppet. Try entering the debate instead of looking down your nose at everyone douchebag!

You must be Daniel Comolli's mum.

Posted by: Brooklyn Hotspur | June 23, 2008 1:24 PM

Because, Brooklyn Hotspur, every so often I get overcome with anger/ amazement that someone actually pays Weinberg to write this toss.
Strong use of douchebag.

Posted by: Hello | June 23, 2008 1:32 PM

I think we should keep hold of Bent, you don't become a bad player over one season, it some times takes a player to bed in. want have we got to lose by keeping him? I don't think we do to bad in the market place and like some of you have said "you win some you lose some" I think we are a few players away from being a top 4 team. Having bale back will be like having a new signing again.

SO COME ON YOU YIDDO'S.

Posted by: Stephen Rista | June 23, 2008 1:43 PM

I think you mean Damien Comolli, you big doofus

Posted by: Jimbob | June 23, 2008 1:50 PM

Cheers for the back-up Brooklyn, me thinks Mr Anonymous - who would rather just splurt out nothingness rather than comment - works for a rival and is rather underpaid.

Otherwise perhaps he'd leave a decent view for us all to consider and debate.

Posted by: Spurs Pies Ed | June 23, 2008 2:05 PM

Bent was never a 12/16mil player. simple. and Younes for 8m. chortle

Posted by: Fred | June 23, 2008 2:09 PM

Well said John. am sick of peoeple saying 16m for bent.Some fans look at the finally price that is printed in shite papers like The Sun and think that a chaps payment has been made overnite. 16 million is over four and a half years, if we sell him now then its nowhere near 16million.Plus add ons. Fans need to understand how transfers work before they jump on the band wagon.

Posted by: geordie yid | June 23, 2008 2:14 PM

No, and, er...no.
1) That Darren Bent is a Spurs flop is a media myth, perpetuated, it seems to me, before he had even kicked a ball. He scoed more than some teams top scorers. He scored 8 goals from 11 starts...and that was without ever having a proper run in the team; something, it is widely considered, a striker needs to hit top form. Calculate his goals to mins ratio, compare it with other forwards (at Spurs, in Prem), and then calculate the impact of not having a proper run in the team. Also, try considering that he was never going to break-up the Keaen/Berbatov partnership in his first season; that there was a desperate dearth of creativity from midfield, which would really harm the game of a forward with a direct style such as Bent; and that he is still only 24, so with plenty of room for improvement!
As for Kaboul, he was thrown in at the deep end. The team was floundering. He had Michael Dawson, who really needed the guidance of aolder, more composed player, like Ledley King, or, latterly, Woodgate, as 'leader' in central defence, and Paul Robinson who was rapidly 'sinking without a trace'. His situation is complicated by the fact that he opened his big mouth to slate Ramos (or so it was reported). Otherwise, I think he could make the grade - remember his tender age; and he certainly hasn't depreciated that much in value.
As for the slating of Comolli, it is my opinion, that the playing staff has improved year on year (two 5th place finishes and cup in three years ain't SO bad compare). Transfers are decided, as has been explained frequently, by a round-robin of Lavy, Comolli and the incumbent head-coach. So why are the flops (there is a percentage in every team) always blamed on Comolli? And don't forget, much as I personally liked Martin Jol and disliked the way he was dealt with, I believe Ramos is the right man at charge, who would probably have went to one of the giant clubs soon if Spurs hadn't procured him when he did - and that was at the recommendation of Comolli. The 'knives for Comolli' campaign, it seems to me, is another 'media perpetuated mass hysteria phenomenon' - don't buy into. And note well (n.b.) if the quality of players improves it is likely to be because Ramos has more pulling power than Jol did (see, above, Ramos came at Comolli's insistence)!

Posted by: Sean | June 23, 2008 2:52 PM

Good post Sean my only issue is "Ramos came at Comolli's insistence" yes Ramos is a Comolli pick but I'm pretty sure the "substantial" contract we offered Ramos was more a factor than Comolli himself :-)

With regards to Bent I really can't see us off loading him, he has the whiff of a Comolli/Levy signing and unless Ramos is adamant he's really no good then why would we sell him, can’t see Levy/Comolli admitting they got it wrong so soon.

Also why sell Defoe if Bent was up to scratch?

One thing ManU have proved is that success is built from stability, so I hate the idea of Spurs gutting the whole team just to chase 4th place, coz it only making us go backwards. Gradual progression and improvement is what we need, not wholesale rebuilding. I really hope both Kaboul and Bent stay as I rate the pair of them, and seeing as football is a squad game it would be a shame to lose these two.

My hope for the season is 6th place or upwards, and another CUP, FA would be amazing, UEFA would be some achievement, or a CC repeat would also be pretty cool. I'm not expecting miracles, just hope we build on last season, and the seasons before especially, and continue to improve the squad and our results.

Posted by: ManilaYID | June 23, 2008 8:47 PM

Good reply Sean my only issue is "Ramos came at Comolli's insistence" yes Ramos is a Comolli pick but I'm pretty sure the "substantial" contract we offered Ramos was more a factor than Comolli himself :-)

With regards to Bent I really can't see us off loading him, he has the whiff of a Comolli/Levy signing and unless Ramos is adamant he's really no good then why would we sell him, can’t see Levy/Comolli admitting they got it wrong so soon.

Also why sell Defoe if Bent was up to scratch?

One thing ManU have proved is that success is built from stability, so I hate the idea of Spurs gutting the whole team just to chase 4th place, coz it only making us go backwards. Gradual progression and improvement is what we need, not wholesale rebuilding. I really hope both Kaboul and Bent stay as I rate the pair of them, and seeing as football is a squad game it would be a shame to lose these two.

My hope for the season is 6th place or upwards, and another CUP, FA would be amazing, UEFA would be some achievement, or a CC repeat would also be pretty cool. I'm not expecting miracles, just hope we build on last season, and the seasons before especially, and continue to improve the squad and our results.

Posted by: ManilaYID | June 23, 2008 8:48 PM

Sorry for the double post.

RE Kaboul: Here's the only supposed quote I can see from him, and by the looks of things this was pre-transfer window opening (so May sometime?) its regarding Pompy.

"That is truth that they may be the club showing the biggest determination to secure my services. We will see," Kaboul told the Daily Mirror.

"I do not know yet, we will see during the transfer window," he added. "For the moment, some clubs contacted me, but there are no concrete offers yet. All I know is that I have three years remaining on my contract and that I have to play. I am 22 and cannot stay on the bench and sometimes stay at home. I am a competitor before everything."

Doesn't read too well for him staying. I can't see him being a regular in defence for us for awhile yet unless Woody and King revert to past injury form (please no!!), but does he really think he will get first place birth at Pompey, I doubt it?

I'm sure if King weren’t so fragile he would be just be fighting with Dawson to play 3rd choice CB, and he'd get maybe 20-25 games a season and would probably be happy, but coz of Kings fragility, and Woody’s to a degree, we are looking at getting another experienced backup centre back, and I can see this being the cause of Kaboul being so upset. So we either loose Kaboul or we gamble on him being good enough to fill King or Woodgates boots if either of them is out? In Ramos we trust.

Posted by: ManilaYID | June 23, 2008 9:13 PM

test

Posted by: kathryn | July 2, 2008 8:30 AM

Who was Spurs' most succesful striker last season?

Was it the classy Bulgarian, whose deft flick/volleys with the outside of the foot left gasps of admiration as the clipped the crossbar or post? Urg Urgh!
Was it the busy Irishman, who created so much and scored a range of goals from spectacular to tap ins?
Urg Urgh!
What is a striker for?
Who scored the most goals per 90 minutes played?
Who had the best shot to goal ratio?

The answer is Darren Bent!

The Gooner media perspective is wrong.
Bent did not cost £16.5, but will once succesful.
Darren scored 0.52 goals per 90 minutes played. ie better than a goal every 2 games.
It was his first season @Spurs with 2 diff manager.
No way should we sell a player who has made a decent start and is proven in the Prem, to replace Bent with a Carlos-Kick-a-ball who may or may not settle in London / English football.

Posted by: BristolSpur | July 6, 2008 9:28 AM

Who was Spurs' most succesful striker last season?

Was it the classy Bulgarian, whose deft flick/volleys with the outside of the foot left gasps of admiration as the clipped the crossbar or post? Urg Urgh!
Was it the busy Irishman, who created so much and scored a range of goals from spectacular to tap ins?
Urg Urgh!

What is a striker for?
Who scored the most goals per 90 minutes played?
Who had the best shot to goal ratio?

The answer is Darren Bent!

The Gooner media perspective is wrong.
Bent did not cost £16.5, but will once succesful.
Darren scored 0.52 goals per 90 minutes played. ie better than a goal every 2 games.
It was his first season @Spurs with 2 diff manager.
No way should we sell a player who has made a decent start and is proven in the Prem, to replace Bent with a Carlos-Kick-a-ball who may or may not settle in London / English football.

Meanwhile; Kaboul.
After his public comments he doesn't deserve another chance. If I'd made as many mistakes at work as Younes, I'd be keeping my head down, not shouting my mouth.

Kaboul to go? I'd pay for the taxi!

Posted by: BristolSpur | July 6, 2008 9:30 AM

If it's the worst website around why read it you f*cking muppet. Try entering the debate instead of looking down your nose at everyone douchebag!

Posted by: Toni | July 8, 2009 9:22 AM

i have been a supporter for 50 years now.and lately it seems the players are not giving their all.and management is also to blame,a player used to want to play for us but when clubs come in for them they seem to not give 100%for us.and also players used to play for more than 3,4 years.now something has to be done.and i am still not happy with this harry rednapp.something dont go right with him.still lets see what happens this season.ive said it before when a player dont want to stay they dont play tidy so when interviewing ,firstly ask them are they really for spurs or are we just a stepping stone for other so called bigger clubs.we are just as big so come you guys.

Posted by: brian | July 22, 2009 11:13 AM